tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22674490.post6677820260105683251..comments2023-10-15T07:28:22.745-05:00Comments on Sayre Smiles: But he's my cub...Sayrehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16350593991157139017noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22674490.post-72514413260182936312007-10-10T18:48:00.000-05:002007-10-10T18:48:00.000-05:00Everyone had covered it all fairly.Dakota had a ki...Everyone had covered it all fairly.<BR/>Dakota had a kid that would drop his books on his head at their lockers, <BR/>D's was on the bottom. The resulting solution was that as the books were being dropped he was to stand up suddenly and accidently catch the other fellow unprepared for D's books coming up in his arms. Needless to say the issue seemed to resolve itself with out going further.<BR/>I am like you not advocating violence but sometimes as was said earlier you just have to be discreet with your accidents.<BR/><BR/>StefAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22674490.post-33629100150622692362007-10-10T17:31:00.000-05:002007-10-10T17:31:00.000-05:00I am glad you wrote the note. Having documentation...I am glad you wrote the note. Having documentation in writing is important both for you and the ones you are communicating with. I had trouble with a girl bullying my daughter in kindergarten last year and I wrote a few notes to the teacher, who was so overwhelmed with the class (despite 2 aids)that she never saw it happening until I said something. Yet, then, things were still happening she couldnt catch, so I ended up calling the girls' mother and said "the girls used to be friends and there seems to be a problem and I would like to find a way we can work it out"...and after some time AND a four way conversation (us two moms and the two girls), things were resolved. Granted, things get different when the kids get older and retaliate "telling" on each other. You handled it well and I pray for peace and happiness for your guy!Stepping Over the Junkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09165163020885309533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22674490.post-30548914960959555522007-10-10T14:38:00.000-05:002007-10-10T14:38:00.000-05:00Hi Momma Bear Sayre. There is so much good advice...Hi Momma Bear Sayre. There is so much good advice in these comments I can't add anything. I especially like Dad's idea of doing a little demo at show and tell. I don't know about martial arts but is there a move where Zboy can stop a bully in his tracks without hurting him (don't want to get sued). Like when the binder is on it's way down onto Zboy's head he can stop it and put the bully into some kind of head lock? <BR/><BR/>It's all to do with confidence. My son was never very big but he always picked the biggest kid in school to be friends with, like a body guard. As a teenager and young man he had enough confidence, learned through martial arts, that he can look a bully in the eye and say "I may be small but I'm fucking crazy." That seems to work. He's never been in a fight.<BR/><BR/>Anyway that's about my boy. Your boy is a different size and temperment. The teachers never seem to catch these things or they don't want to see.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22674490.post-25156800809174355452007-10-09T23:09:00.000-05:002007-10-09T23:09:00.000-05:00I am sorry that Zboy is going through this! I kno...I am sorry that Zboy is going through this! I know it can't be easy to be the momma bear, you want to just reach out and swipe the attackers. Maybe draw some blood, but it will be worse later. Bullying can be very hard on children, but I think you did the right thing. And I don't advocate the hitting back thing, these days kids have weapons and gangs of friends that can make things worse. Keep an eye out, and I'll keep you two in my thoughts.apricocohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13906880944880636437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22674490.post-28682114441791908812007-10-09T19:25:00.000-05:002007-10-09T19:25:00.000-05:00Poor ZBoy. I'm so sorry this has happened. I hope ...Poor ZBoy. I'm so sorry this has happened. I hope the problem gets resolved soon. <BR/>My oldest had 2 problems while I had him in school. One time it was older boys and I had to take it to the board because the principle from the school where the other boys went said that since my son was in the elementary school she couldn't do nothing. They broke his classes. He was a 2nd grader and the other boys were in the 4th.<BR/>The next problem his life got threaten, I went to the principle and right off the bat he tried to make it a black white issue when he found out what the boy's name was. I told him that I had no idea what color and that wasn't the problem. Then that day he called DJ to the office and intimidated him. I went to the board on that one. To find out the boy did have a hit list and mine was #15, so they did x-spell him. I would talk to ZBoy everyday and make sure the teachers were handling this and if not go to the Superintendent or the board.<BR/>(((((((HUGS))))))) to you and ZBoy!kittenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18049382336915982813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22674490.post-10532653105476672792007-10-09T18:07:00.000-05:002007-10-09T18:07:00.000-05:00Boys are little hooligans at heart and bullies ten...Boys are little hooligans at heart and bullies tend to remain bullies until it is made clear that messing with their target is a bad idea.<BR/>Two solutions: If there is show 'n tell, let ZBoy wear his ghee to school, with his belt. Take the bag and let him demonstrate a few spin kicks at full belt. Then, let the word get around.<BR/>Second solution. If it's pushing and shoving and bopping with notebooks--push and bop back. Being a snivelling victim is bad, being a counter-puncher is good.<BR/>Regardless, it is the nature of these little muggers to respond to a good butt kicking faster than logic.<BR/>In my youth I was a fairly tough bloke, capable of punching your lights out. Everyone knew, nobody asked for a demo after I sparred with a friend of mine who had a rep as a competent bar-fighter. I damned near put his lights out with a wicked right hook. I never had any problem from that day forward.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22674490.post-8597496515307254172007-10-09T13:15:00.000-05:002007-10-09T13:15:00.000-05:00What is truly upsetting ZBoy is not being bopped o...What is truly upsetting ZBoy is not being bopped on the head with a notebook, but feeling powerless to stop it. Planning the ass-whipping gives him a sense of control and will increase his confidence when it comes to dealing with there little punks. That, in turn, will make him less of a target.<BR/><BR/>JohnAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22674490.post-50438914080953085342007-10-09T13:13:00.000-05:002007-10-09T13:13:00.000-05:00There is nothing wrong with displaying the confide...There is nothing wrong with displaying the confidence that he can do it if he has to. Taking this attitude has the added benefit of not giving the bullies what they want. They go, in ZBoy's eyes, from growling rotweilers to yapping teacup poodles... a slight nuisance, but not at all intimidating. Maybe teach ZBoy to size up the bully and make a plan in his head on how to one, dispatch him very quickly and decisively, and two, have plausible deniability. It is truly an art to make a thorough ass-kicking appear to be an accident. Think Jackie Chan.<BR/>Two bullies may have to be accidentally hurt, or one more than once, but I'd be willing to bet there will not be a third incident.<BR/><BR/>JohnAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22674490.post-2026159148617814102007-10-09T12:54:00.000-05:002007-10-09T12:54:00.000-05:00Well, you see... that's the trouble with this "sol...Well, you see... that's the trouble with this "solution". ZBoy is already quite capable of breaking arms, kneecaps and rendering said little boys permanent sopranos - the kind of thing that could result in lawsuit (oh for the days when people weren't so-suit happy). <BR/><BR/>As a mother, I don't favor the "punch 'em in the nose" solution - but as a big sister, I can certainly relate to the urge/need/desire to do so.<BR/><BR/>However, if it should come to that - and I know ZBoy would only resort to that reluctantly - I would indeed back him up all the way.Sayrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16350593991157139017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22674490.post-18734073005042155282007-10-09T12:41:00.000-05:002007-10-09T12:41:00.000-05:00Zboy will find that a well placed punch to the nos...Zboy will find that a well placed punch to the nose solves every problem in this situation.<BR/><BR/>When I was in 6th grade, Mom had laid down that ridiculous "never fight back under any circumstances" edict that has currently found a home in the Democratic party.<BR/><BR/>A kid named Chris figured this out and took great joy in picking on me endlessly, to the point that I was getting hit in the face on a daily basis.<BR/><BR/>This went on until Chris went to a different High School, at which point his friend, James, picked up the mantle.<BR/><BR/>Now, I had just been through the "Latin instead of Football" episode, so I had reached a breaking point. One day, I simply turned and gave James a beating unlike any he had ever had.<BR/><BR/>Problem solved.<BR/><BR/>A year later, I saw Chris at a football game. I didn't say a word, I simply walked up to him, hit him as hard as I could, and continued to do so until I got bored with it.<BR/><BR/>Problem solved.<BR/><BR/>Let Zboy know that serving up a platter of knuckle sandwiches is a perfectly acceptable way of dealing with boys unwilling to be reasonable.<BR/><BR/>It is better that Zboy teaches them this lesson now, when they are small children, than later, when he can actually do damage to his tormentors.<BR/><BR/>AndyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22674490.post-64675036288188564692007-10-09T12:25:00.000-05:002007-10-09T12:25:00.000-05:00Today's kinder, gentler approach to dealing with b...Today's kinder, gentler approach to dealing with bullies doesn't work. Remember Mark Feinburg?<BR/><BR/>Mark was twice my size, dumb as a bag of hammers, and delighted in pushing me around. Mom forbade me to fight back. This resulted in about two years of on-going crap which eventually became the afternoon show for all the kids in the neighborhood.<BR/><BR/>One day, I had simply had enough. Mark was continuing with his taunting and pushing, and it just happened without warning. Without a word, I turned around and punched Mark in the nose so hard his feet came out from under him. Problem solved. Permanently.<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, I think this will result in things getting much worse for ZBoy in the near term because the bullies will figure out who ratted them out. Once teacher turns her back, leaves the room, or there is an unsupervised moment on the playground, ZBoy will pay the price.<BR/><BR/>On the brighter side, ZBoy has no chance whatsoever of being a small guy. These little punks need to get their licks in while they can, because there will be hell to pay later. The only thing that keeps predators in line is a healthy fear of a broken nose. Before this is over, I am guessing ZBoy will be forced to deliver one or two.<BR/><BR/>You mustn't condemn him for it. Back him up all the way. To do otherwise will put him in an untenable position that will manifest later.<BR/><BR/>Good luck!<BR/><BR/>JohnAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22674490.post-13410913826170206822007-10-09T10:55:00.000-05:002007-10-09T10:55:00.000-05:00Kids can be so mean. I hope things get better soon...Kids can be so mean. I hope things get better soon. Poor ZBoy!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22674490.post-14360100031901308052007-10-09T08:38:00.000-05:002007-10-09T08:38:00.000-05:00that should have said, if NOT...put on your shoes....that should have said, if NOT...put on your shoes...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22674490.post-50847339886173777612007-10-09T08:37:00.000-05:002007-10-09T08:37:00.000-05:00Two out of how many?I was in the classroom for ove...Two out of how many?<BR/>I was in the classroom for over 25 years, before e-mailing became a form of communication...as a teacher, I would want the parent to come to me personally and let me know about this.<BR/>You should have heard from the principal by now...if now, put on your shoes, call and make an appointment with as many teachers and the principal as you can.<BR/>The bullying has to stop and they ALL have to be a part of the solution. <BR/>Other children are victims, too. They probably just haven't told their parents about the problem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com